Helping People

In 1993 I wanted to do something positive for the community. I was inspired by the idea of individuals helping out in their own neighborhoods to better things and I wanted to do some volunteer work. I ended up tutoring at this community-based organization where academically troubled students were being sent after school. I thought all they needed was some individual attention.

Those motherfuckers didn’t need tutoring. What they needed was a parental smackdown.

For the most part they weren’t stupid, they were just bad. The vast majority of them didn’t want help with their studies, they wanted to jack off their time there just like they did in class. Out of all the kids who got sent there, there was only one who actually wanted help. This middle school kid was brought there every day by his grandfather who asked me to help the boy with algebra, which I did. He was a good kid, a studious kid, but after a while I decided this isn’t worth my time. I ended up quitting the volunteer gig and lest you think I let that one kid down I bet he turned out all right, not because of my tutoring but because he had a grandfather that cared enough to invest time and effort into him and placed expectations on him. And that is worth more than a whole book of foodstamps.

One thing that both Fyodor Dostoevsky (a socialist) and Ayn Rand (capitalist) both agreed on was that socialism aims to destroy the traditional idea of family. One of Dostoevsky’s characters in the novel “Demons” states this explicitly:

“Only one thing is lacking in the world: obedience. The thirst for education is already an aristocratic thirst. As soon as there’s just a tiny bit of family love, there’s a desire for property. We’ll extinguish desire: we’ll get drinking, gossip, denunciation going; we’ll get unheard of depravity going; we’ll stifle every genius in infancy. Everything is reduced to a common denominator, complete equality.” 

What he’s talking about here is not equality of opportunity but equal distribution. If you love your family more than you love the rest of your fellow man then you naturally want to accumulate private property($$$) so that your own people benefit from the work of your two hands. Socialism seeks to quash this and replace it with “the good of society.” So not only must people forsake the idea of God for socialism, they must also reject filial love in favor of “the good of society”.

I reject holding the good of society above myself and my family. To spend time, effort, and money on someone, I am in effect saying that I value that person. Were I to quit my paid job in order to volunteer to help bad kids, my own children would suffer for it. I would be showing that I value the bad kids over my own. I don’t. The same can be said for money. If I vote for programs that tax me in order to help out others and my own children suffer for it, then I’m committing a crime against my own children.

If you point out that my own children might benefit from such programs that are funded by other people’s tax money, I will say I don’t want the government to make me obsolete by replacing me with government programs like foodstamps, HUD housing, and Medicaid. I don’t want the government to save the day by garnishing my wages for child support in order to reward my ex for splitting up our family. I don’t want to be sent to jail if I don’t comply with the government. I want me, my property, my freedom, and my children. And if I can’t sustain us I should ask someone for help, not have the government force others to support us under threat of force.

On the one side, you have socialism and other collectivist ideas like Naziism. On the other side you have property rights and family. I regard one of these sides as good and the other one as evil. And as Ayn Rand once said “In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.”

Now that’s some debate fodder! I ain’t always jokes.

53 Responses to “Helping People”

  1. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    Lighten up. What happened to the stupid chicks and the “This one time at Leroy’s stories”?

  2. Mexigogue says:

    Ok, last night at Leroy’s I ran the table game after game and I was a god. When I was tired I just gave the table to someone else because I was unbeatable. That’s because Ken is out of town working, Dave is on vacation, and Lauri was not there either. I was the best player there!

  3. Nice Rack says:

    Wow, you kind of gave me props on my pool game in a backwards kind of way. Thanks Meximan.

  4. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    Good point about the whole “If I vote for programs that tax me in order to help out others and my own children suffer for it, then I’m committing a crime against my own children.” The problem is that most leftist weenies are low rent dirt balls and pay very little taxes so they are all for getting something for free and taking away from your children to feed theirs so they can sit around and smoke weed!

  5. R says:

    I am an affluent left wing weenie who pays a bunch of taxes. I’d rather them all go towards social programs instead of wars.

    And I can’t smoke weed cuz my clearance gets taken away, so there is that. . .

  6. Phelps says:

    ‘Cause I ain’t askin’ nobody for nothin’

    if I can’t get it on my own.

    If you don’t like the way I’m livin’

    You just leave this long haired country boy alone.

    Charlie Daniels

  7. Phelps says:

    And wars are social programs.

  8. HMT says:

    a hell of a post.

    I see nothing wrong with the absence of “obedience” as long as it is disobedience to social norms and the idea of socialist/collectivist thought.

    I’m not surprised those kids didn’t want help. Their parents have shown through example that it isn’t necessary.

  9. Citizen Quasar says:

    People who advocate socialism, or its broader genus of STATISM, as Ayn Rand would say, are NOT interested in HELPING ANYONE. People who advocate socialism are advocating that they be given control over YOUR life.

    Socialists want YOU to work and produce in a manner prescribed and controlled by them and then to GIVE them your hard(er) earned monies for the socialists to spend at their own discretion. They are claiming “the right to enslave.”

    In “The Forgotten Man of Socialized Medicine” by Ayn Rand, an excert scene from “Atlas Shrugged,” a brain surgeon makes the argument that he did not work himself through school for over a decade to be told WHO he will operate on, WHICH operation he will perform, WHEN he will perform it, and HOW MUCH he will be paid for it.

    Go operate on YOUR OWN brain. Or perhaps a socialist can persuade Hugo De Garis (Google search) that Hugo De Garis owes the socialist something.

  10. MarcoAntonio says:

    Phelps,

    Wars are social programs?

    Please explain.

  11. Mexigogue says:

    Oh wait. I just remembered, I didn’t quit because I didn’t think it was worth my time. I quit because I got pissed off at Tyrone for calling and telling Carol I was seeing this big titty chick I met at MSU and since Tyrone tutored too I didn’t wanna go anymore. But the other stuff was part of it.

  12. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    I thought you were a libretarian “R” that is way on the other spectrum from left wing weenie. But still a weed head….”R” if you don’t want $$ spent on wars or defense. Then why are you in the defense industry and profiting from them?

  13. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    Marco why are you asking Phelps to explain your statement. Shouldn’t you explain it?

  14. Phelps says:

    Wars are social programs on several levels. On the most basic, like all social programs, war chooses to use force in order to modify the behavior of a group. Welfare, in one form of social program, sends violent men with guns to take money by force from people that the government thinks should be more charitable. War, another social program, sends violent men with guns to take life from a certain percentage of a group in order to make that group more peaceful. War is simply politics by other means.

    It is also a nice pun in that we want to make any social program a war on something (war on drugs, war on poverty, war on obesity, etc.)

  15. Mexigogue says:

    If they renamed the War on Poverty to the War on the Non-Poor people would actually get a better take on it.

  16. MarcoAntonio says:

    Phelps is the one who made the statement. I simply asked for an explaination.

  17. R says:

    I thought you were a libretarian “R” that is way on the other spectrum from left wing weenie. But still a weed head….”R” if you don’t want $$ spent on wars or defense. Then why are you in the defense industry and profiting from them?

    Because if I had said “illegal wars” instead of just “wars,” I would have gotten all you motherfuckers up in my shit.

    I’m not a pure libertarian. I have a libertarian streak in me, but I am more left-wing than I am right-wing. My libertarian streak comes from the following two opinions: 1) Ethics and morality are relative to society and can exist without a God, and 2) We should just let gay people get married, for fuck’s sake.

    The leftist in me sympathizes with illegal immigrants and figures that if they’re here anyway we shouldn’t be assholes and turn them away when they bring their sick kids to the hospital. The leftist in me sympathizes with environmentalists (PETA and Greanpeace don’t count) because nature is the bomb-fucking-diggidydog, SUVs are teh suck, and our dependence on Saudi oil makes us a bitch, lends to dangerous national security policies, and keeps fatass Americans driving our their fatass SUVs.

    The conservative in me says we should stop dicking around with our fucking budget, stop making huge government bureaucracies, reform some social programs, so in the end I don’t have to pay so many fucking taxes.

    The capitalist in me loves this goddamn country despite all our problems.

    And the patriot in me works in defense because American soldiers are Americans with families who want to see them home. If I can make weapons that increase their chances of coming home alive, then it’s all good.

    I’m a fucking melting pot of political ideals.

  18. MarcoAntonio says:

    I like beer. Does that make me a beer head?

  19. Mexigogue says:

    Because if I had said “illegal wars” instead of just “wars,” I would have gotten all you motherfuckers up in my shit.

    The law is not an end unto itself. So if something is ethically the right thing to do but illegal I don’t have a problem with breaking the law. So as far as I’m concerned the question of the war on Iraq is not whether or not it’s legal (don’t care) but whether or not it’s ethical.

    So as far as I’m concerned I would look at which of the following is ethical/unethical.

    1. Inaction (allowing Sadaam to do what he wants)
    2. Sanctions (kills civilian population)
    3. Hot war (kills enemy combanants and American servicemen.

  20. MarcoAntonio says:

    You forgot to add civilians in #3.

  21. Mexigogue says:

    Yeah, I thought about that. I should have said sanctions TARGETS civilians and hot war TARGETS enemy combatants. And there is of course collateral damage in any war.

    (it sounds so nice and neat when you say collateral damage rather than dead civilians)

  22. R says:

    The law is not an end unto itself. So if something is ethically the right thing to do but illegal I don’t have a problem with breaking the law. So as far as I’m concerned the question of the war on Iraq is not whether or not it’s legal (don’t care) but whether or not it’s ethical.

    SIIIIIIGGGHHH!!!!

    It’s fucking Friday, don’t you guys turn off your brains or something?

    Ok, to further clarify the moonbatish terminology:

    Why pay hundreds of billions of dollars to liberate motherfuckers who had been suffering the same shit for the last thirty motherfucking years?!?!? Why NOW? What makes NOW so goddamn fucking SPECIAL?

    If we were going to do the ethically/morally right thing, we would have deposed Saddam Hussein a long-ass fucking time ago…if we really gave a shit about impoverished Iraqis. Fuck, we were already there back in ’90 and didn’t do jack shit.

    So fuck those “ethical” reasons for going into Iraq. It’s bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

    I need a motherfucking beer.

  23. Mexigogue says:

    I didn’t say invading Iraq was ethical. I was comparing that option with the other two. It’s like saying which glass of water is dirtier, it doesnt’ mean I want to drink dirty water.

    Or do I?. .. . . . .

    Wait, NO!

  24. Phelps says:

    Why now? Because this is the first time in 20 years that we’ve had a president who didn’t either have a limp dick or more of a hard-on for interns than America.

    Why spend billions of dollars on them? Because they are human. We didn’t do anything in 91 because Bush 41 was a limp dicked spook. We didn’t do anything from 92-00 because Clinton was a frat boy with a hard-on, a box of cigars and the launch codes. Dub gets in (a real Texan) and the ass kicking commences.

  25. Jeremy says:

    So as far as I’m concerned I would look at which of the following is ethical/unethical.

    1. Inaction (allowing Sadaam to do what he wants)
    2. Sanctions (kills civilian population)
    3. Hot war (kills enemy combanants and American servicemen.

    1. ethical
    2. unethical
    3. unethical

    Tank eh-you, cawm ageen!!!

  26. Jeremy says:

    Because this is the first time in 20 years that we’ve had a president who didn’t either have a limp dick or more of a hard-on for interns than America.

    History can finally be fulfilled, now that Bush is in the White House.

    Man, can’t wait to see the party y’all throw when Jesus comes back. You’ll probably be all like “MY LORD AND SAVIOR” and stuff, like it’s some big important thing that we should stop our lives and dedicate ourselves to.

    You guys never change.

  27. Jeremy says:

    Dub gets in (a real Texan) and the ass kicking commences.

    A patrician Connetticut family can raise a “real Texan”? Awesome!

  28. Mexigogue says:

    Man, can’t wait to see the party y’all throw when Jesus comes back. You’ll probably be all like “MY LORD AND SAVIOR” and stuff, like it’s some big important thing that we should stop our lives and dedicate ourselves to.

    You guys never change.

    I don’t think Phelps is in the 700 Club. The world isn’t as simple as right/left.

  29. Jeremy says:

    I don’t think Phelps is in the 700 Club.

    Oh, it was a joke.

  30. Jebus says:

    My cult is losing steam 🙁

  31. Mexigogue says:

    It’s tough to say that inaction would have been the right move. Remember when Wilt Chamberlain was like “We should just appease Hitler.” That didn’t really work out. Not to say that Sadaam is as bad as Hitler but remember Chamberlain scored 100 pts in a game and they still lost.

  32. Jeremy says:

    It’s tough to say that inaction would have been the right move.

    I reject the idea that we can expand the authority of the state whenever outcomes anywhere in the world are unacceptable.

  33. Mexigogue says:

    Soooooooo what I’m hearing is that you love Sadaam and you think he’s cute???

  34. MarcoAntonio says:

    True M but remember: Sadaam was a bastard. But he was OUR bastard.

    Just like OBL used to be OUR Mujahadeen (or freedom fighter)

    And the beat goes on.

  35. R says:

    Why now? Because this is the first time in 20 years that we’ve had a president who didn’t either have a limp dick or more of a hard-on for interns than America.

    Why spend billions of dollars on them? Because they are human. We didn’t do anything in 91 because Bush 41 was a limp dicked spook. We didn’t do anything from 92-00 because Clinton was a frat boy with a hard-on, a box of cigars and the launch codes. Dub gets in (a real Texan) and the ass kicking commences.

    But obviously the American people didn’t care enough to make it an issue a President could lose his job over. When did AMERICANS want to rush in and save the Iraqis? When did AMERICANS write to their representatives demanding an Iraq invasion to save the poor, impoverished Iraqis?

    Americans never gave a fuck about Iraqis. Did you? Did teh Mexigogue? Did Jeremy? Did I? I sure as hell didn’t and I sure as hell still don’t.

    Did Bush Jr. win on the “Save Impoverished Iraqis” platform? I don’t remember Iraqis being a plank on his campaign. Do you?

    Who gave a fuck about Iraqis in 2000? Nobody. At least no number of Americans enough to make it an issue.

    But suddenly Bush says “We fixin’ to invade Eyerack cuz dem dere terrists and evildoo-urs ‘n stuff,” and since every conservative believed that Bush Jr. was put into office by this jackass God-type person they say “America! Fuck yeah!” and want to kick terrorists asses and save impoverished Iraqis.

    Where was the public outcry for them twenty or thirty years ago?

    NOBODY GAVE A FUCK UNTIL IT MADE THEM LOOK RIGHTEOUS TO DO SO!

    Fuckin’ hypocrite redneck religious bible-thumpin’ motherfuckers.

  36. Mexigogue says:

    According to the book “Terror Inc.” by CNN’s Peter Arnett, there is no evidence to indicate that Bin Laden ever met with or colluded with US agents. Bin Laden’s Afghan Arabs operated independently and at best might have benefited indireclty from the CIA’s funneling of US money to Afghanistan but the money was funneled through Pakistan and it was the Pakistanis who ultimately made the call on who to fund. In fact Bin Laden is quoted as saying in the early 1980s that after the Soviet Union the next target would be the United States.

  37. Mexigogue says:

    Americans never gave a fuck about Iraqis. Did you? Did teh Mexigogue? Did Jeremy? Did I? I sure as hell didn’t and I sure as hell still don’t.

    I gave a fuck about the Iraqis when I argued against sanctions during the Clinton Administration. I gave a fuck about them when I put $5 in the Iraqi relief bucket at the Islamic Center in 1999. I know that doesn’t sound like a lot but I’m a tightwad so that’s like $500 for anybody else.

  38. Jeremy says:

    Soooooooo what I’m hearing is that you love Sadaam and you think he’s cute???

    There may be a job for you in the White House Press Corps!

  39. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    I don’t give a rip roaring shit about the Iraqis and I never have. I have been to that country and they are a dirty nasty people who live like shit and follow an ass backward religion. I saw we turn em into slaves and keep the women folk and the oil for ourselves! Who is with me?

  40. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    BTW Mexi wouldn’t that $5.00 you spent for Iraqi releif been better spent on your own children? Damn man you could have got a couple ahppy meals out of that $5.00 or a box of condoms…..

  41. Mexigogue says:

    I actually felt bad when I dropped the $5 in the bucket because I was mentally calculating how much stuff I could have bought with it. But I was thinking that God was blackmailing me into helping my fellow man. No kidding I really felt bad about dropping that money in there. Altruism is dumb.

  42. R says:

    See? See?!?

    Now multiply that $5 by 56 BILLION and imagine how many fucking happy meals we could have bought Mexigogue’s kids?

  43. MarcoAntonio says:

    Mr Jacket,

    Sure! But only if you lead the charge.

    Now where oh where did I leave my crusade ballcap? You know I’m gonna need that bad boy in rally position. And snickers bars. Lots and lots of snickers.

  44. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    I’ll lead let’s roll Marco. I’m gonna wear a football helmet well show those savages what the USA is all ’bout!!!!! USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

  45. rae says:

    Jesus- I leave for a few hours and you guys get “R” all hot and bothered. Man, I missed it.

    Here’s my two cents:

    Democrats rock!
    Free Tibet!!
    67% of Americans are obese-down with Happy meals!!
    Mexi/Phelpsie- did you care as much for Rwandans during the massacre of 1994?
    R sounds about as confused as a 14 year old Lesbian girl.

    Okay that’s it.

  46. Mexigogue says:

    I don’t recall the United States killing Rwandans through sanctions. If we did I would have been against it.

  47. rae says:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Phelpsied said:

    Why spend billions of dollars on them? Because they are human.

    So Rwandans must not be human I guess.

  48. Citizen Quasar says:

    Jeez…

    I first heard about “the Mideast” when I was a kid during “The Six Day War.” If is wasn’t for “the oil” industry which WE built for them, they’d likely still be a bunch of goat fucking morons. Many of them still are.

    I have waited almost FORTY YEARS to see us go over there, kick ass, and straighten things out. I’ll be damned if someone who still shits yellow doodoo is going to change my mind.

  49. oregonchick says:

    I find your premise that giving to the less fortunate is going to harm your children to be too simplistic. If all you had is $5, with no money for food, rent, clothing, heat, etc., and you gave it to help Iraqis, or save the whales, or buy a bum a beer, then that would hold true. But you can provide for your family AND contribute to the public good. It’s not an either/or proposition – there’s a continuum there. You don’t have to hold the good of society ABOVE the needs of your family in order to make a small contribution to the welfare of others.

    I don’t begrudge anyone the taxes I pay. I consider them a fair price for living in this country. I benefit when other people’s children are educated (it boosts the economy when you have an educated workforce and hopefully gives them a glimpse of a future that doesn’t involve meth, property crime, and that kind of thing). I benefit when people have access to medical care (if the people I encounter in public aren’t disease carriers but actually receive treatment, I may not find myself infected). I won’t go through the litany of other social programs I benefit from, but I will say that, in general, I feel it’s my civic duty to contribute and I find it surprising that people still seem to believe their only duty is to themselves. I can’t support such self-centered and misanthropic worldview.

    Perhaps not surprisingly, I abhor Ayn Rand. Not only do I dislike her politics, her utter lack of subtlety makes reading her works excruciating. Thank God I never have to read The Fountainhead again!

  50. Mexigogue says:

    So if I only take two itsy bitsy grains of arsenic I’m not hurting myself? I use the example of a lethal dose to make a point. I prefer not to take any arsenic.

    But more to the point when you set up the social safety net you are saying “Here is the reward you will get if you stop trying.” That does hurt my children because I’m helping to create a subclass of people who don’t produce anything, don’t provide any service, and never will. Not only do my children grow up paying taxes to maintain them, also there goes the dollar menu at McDonalds.

  51. Phelps says:

    A little bit of arsenic is good for you. Arsenic is a powerful medicine.

    OC, I agree that it is your civic duty to help people. I fully support giving money to charity. What I don’t support is people sticking guns in your face and saying “give me your money or I’ll kill you.” I have a hard time calling that a “civic duty.” Taxes are not a “small contribution” for me. They are about 45% of my income, and I’m not rich. The only people they are a small contribution for are the ones who are already net in the whole because of guys like me.

    Where the fuck did the Rwandan straw man come from? You pick your fights. There is no point in going and killing a bunch of people if nothing is going to chance. Killing a bunch of Africans right now isn’t going to chance anything (yet.) That is why we went after Iraq rather than Lybia. Iraq means that we don’t have to invade as many places, like Lybia and Lebanon (which are both cleaning up on thier own.)

    So, are you guys actually advocating an invasion of Rwanda now?

  52. guy in the UNLV jacket says:

    I can’t invade Rwande until after MarcoAntonio and I are done fucking up the Arabs. I think Mexi is going to have to lead that campaign

  53. Jeremy says:

    Where was the public outcry for them twenty or thirty years ago?

    But it’s just like Mexigogue dropping $5 in the bucket. We help when it’s convenient – when we don’t have to go out of our way TOO much, or when it’s politically convenient.

    Like, in my case, I only really go work at the soup kitchen when there’s some sexual harrassment lawyer breathing down my neck.