A debate I’m having on an internet list. The indented portion is the guy I’m arguing against:

So, how do you put value on a person? Is Bill Gates really worth $x billion as an individual? He was in the right place at the right time and made the right decision. Partly luck partly judgement.

People thought his product was so valuable they voluntarily handed money over in exchange for it. That is prima facie evidence of his and his product’s value.

What particular characteristics or knowledge does he possess that makes him with x billion times more than a street urchin? Or even x million times more than a senior programmer working for him?

He invented and marketed stuff that people both wanted and needed. The consumers decide value. What operating system do you use by the way?

It seems to me that the capitalist method of valuation is somewhat inaccurate? Don’t tell me, you think Bill Gates is really worth that much as a person because the market says so?

Ok I won’t tell you that. But I suspect you know it already.

Bill is just one example. At least he has the honour of earning everything he possesses now. What about those that inherit wealth? Are they worth that amount of money?

If I earn a truckload of money in my lifetime should I not be allowed to bequeath that $ to my children?

Take a look at our Royal Family. Prince Harry is a drunken, drug taking philandering piece of shit that thinks it’s ‘funny’ to wear a Nazi outfit to a fancy dress party populated by the young ‘elite’.

It WAS funny! In fact I”ve been known to say to a girl “Hey come here” and then I’ll take a pen and draw a swastika on her hand. It’s even funnier because I’m Mexican!

He’s not an intellectual (his teacher did his portfolio for him to enable him to pass A level art – Jesus), he’s going to Sand Hurst to become a military officer (I pity the men he’ll be in charge of), because despite having the best education that can be bought in Great Britain (Eton public school), he’s STILL too stupid to get to university. He also has a tendency towards violence – punching a photographer. Note that because of his privileged position he’s managed to get away with all of the above indiscretions.

Not kidding here: Famous people should get accolades for punching photographers. Not just any photographers, mind you, like some high school kid taking still life shots for class, but those M****F****ers who make life unbearable for celebreties by following them all over the place. Have you forgotten so quickly how his mum died?

I’m all in favour of a just society, with people being awarded appropriatately for their efforts – but this isn’t it. Capitalism doesn’t put the correct value on men and neither does it value natural resources. Until we can solve intersteller travel, we live in a world of finite resources, with a finely balanced eco system. At the moment though it’s ok to burn petroleum to fuel 5 litre RVs becuase some people ‘like the image it portrays’. Great.

Who are YOU to tell someone else what they can and can’t do with their own MONEY???

Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money.


I’m in favour of a government with a decent long term strategy, that can over ride the impulses of the market economy. Whoever came up with the slogan “the people can spend their money better than the government”? Most people are ignorant turds that are happy to spend whatever pitance society
gives them on the first sensate experience that piques their interest.

Wow. You really ARE an elitist. It’s nice to know that there are people like you to look down on us and tell us how to live our lives.

> Paris Hilton – death’s too good for her. What’s she worth in dollars? I doubt she could hold down a job flipping burgers,


Great, so now you’re the Angel of Death. At least the left shows it’s true colors.

And why in the world would she want to flip burgers? She’s waaaay more valuable than you and me combined as a fashion model. Do you know how much business it generates when they use beautiful people to market stuff? She probably can’t cook toast but with the value she brings in marketing she never has to cook a day in her life, not toast, much less burgers.

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The point I’m trying to illustrate is that the political agenda of socialists is predicated on the use of force as opposed to capitalism where people deal with each other by mutual consent. If this guy had his way, wealth would be redistributed. If you resist? Criminal charges, police are sent with guns: force. If he had his way he would dictate how much fuel your vehicle can burn. If you don’t comply, criminal charges, police, guns, force. Then he wants to save the ecology by passing laws restricting what YOU can or can’t build. If you don’t comply, police, guns, force.

He tosses in a nice statement about how most people are too ignorant to know what’s good for them. Here, let me get that money from you. You’re too stupid to know what to do with it.

This is socialism unmasked.

16 Responses to “Debate”

  1. Cosmic Siren says:

    Mex, remember you’re arguing with a nutcase who claims that anyone who isn’t an atheist is insane and then says the night before the US election that he’s praying for Bush’s defeat and imploring everyone else to join him in prayer.

  2. mexigogue says:

    Maybe he meant ‘preying’. LOCK UP YOUR KIDS!!!!

    Oh man, the other day the song “Another Brick in the Wall” came on the juke box, then when it got to the refrain this dude who is always making fun of Michael Jackson said “HEY! MICHAEL! LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!”

  3. guy in the UNLV Jacket says:

    What about the white trash in America who are “drunken, drug taking philandering pieces of shit who think it’s ‘funny’ to wear a Nazi outfits to trailer park block parties? Poor people should be rounded up and shot!! Most of them are to stupid to get in to community college let alone pass high school art……Poor poeple should be in jail!!!!

  4. guy in the UNLV Jacket says:

    Easy to turn that statement around

  5. mexigogue says:

    They put poor people in jail to keep them poor. Snicker!

    Hey remember that white dude whose mom wouldn’t bail him out because he hadn’t got a job yet and he argued that he did the other thing she told him to. You said “what, do the dishes?” Then when he got off the phone you asked him what it was that he had done that she asked him to and he said “I did the dishes!”


  6. guy in the UNLV Jacket says:

    That was funny…Good timee in the Lansing city Jail..Man that dude was full of good quotes
    White Dude: “That cop arrested me ’cause I am white”…
    White Dude:”They just got us here trying to keep us poor”
    UNLV: “I’m not poor”
    White Dude: “I got a $20,000 car in storage”

  7. mexigogue says:

    I like the looks of envy as we bond out as fast as we were booked in and everyone else is sitting there for lack of $200.

  8. rae says:

    Standard of ethics for bloggers? Lick my fucking twat. If they even TRY to do that-OMG Revolution. What a joke.

  9. Phelps says:

    I had two thoughts reading that. First, “Where do you get this “our royal family shit, white man?”

    And the second was that we will never get to the last tree, because the less there are of them, the more they are worth, and no one is ever going to use up the last of anything. Hell, he could spend $10, buy one and then keep it safe. The only person to ever use up the very last of anything was when Fry ate the last sardines in the universe.

  10. Jeremy says:

    This is socialism unmasked.

    That is SOOOO not funny.

  11. guy in the UNLV Jacket says:

    It’s scary

  12. R says:

    If I ruled the world, pretty much everyone who comments here would still be alive. It’s all the stupid people that have to look out.

    For example, every idiot who ever almost side-swiped me on the highway because they didn’t have the presence of mind to look into their fucking side mirrors before maneuvering their goddamn monstrous Excursions into the left lane, yeah, they’d be dead by use of bullets.

  13. Jeremy says:

    …they’d be dead by use of bullets.

    Interestingly enough, statistics do show that it’s one of the most prevalent ways to “cap a foo’ in ‘is ass”.

  14. Brian says:

    Damn dude, and you complained about Rae’s blog being too long! I want MY money back!

  15. Brian says:

    Damn dude, and you complained about Rae’s blog being too long! I want MY money back!